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tatsuya46
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 22:37    Post subject: Reply with quote
is airtime fairness in the wifi settings list for both radios? rather not be first to flash in case it bricks & im 1200km away from it
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 22:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
tatsuya46 wrote:
is airtime fairness in the wifi settings list for both radios? rather not be first to flash in case it bricks & im 1200km away from it

EA8500
DD-WRT v3.0-r33525M kongat (10/16/17


EDIT: ummm... yea she is there on both the 9980
or maybe I should say it is there for both my 99X0 radios Smile
DarkBasic86
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:32    Post subject: replace candidate for old thrusty router Reply with quote
znstyle wrote:
My ISP:
* 500Mbps Down / 500Mbps Up *

R33435M @ R7800


NIC Link Setting: 1.0Gbps Full Duplex
=> Almost no bufferbloat

Hey there,

did I get this right, that you get your full speed with normal ping times, when 1Gbps Full Duplex is set?
Is this the default value, when cable and corresponding NIC comply?

BrainSlayer wrote:
[5] 0.00-1.00 sec 65.9 MBytes 552 Mbits/sec

Is the R7800 with ISP connection of 500Mbps already maxed out?



Background information:
I got a 400Mbps ISP connection and now I need to replace my WNR3500L,
because on DD-WRT-FW it only can handle 115Mbps in WAN-LAN throughput.
On stock it gets 520Mbps.
znstyle
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Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:51    Post subject: Re: replace candidate for old thrusty router Reply with quote
DarkBasic86 wrote:
znstyle wrote:
My ISP:
* 500Mbps Down / 500Mbps Up *

R33435M @ R7800


NIC Link Setting: 1.0Gbps Full Duplex
=> Almost no bufferbloat

Hey there,

did I get this right, that you get your full speed with normal ping times, when 1Gbps Full Duplex is set?
Is this the default value, when cable and corresponding NIC comply?

BrainSlayer wrote:
[5] 0.00-1.00 sec 65.9 MBytes 552 Mbits/sec

Is the R7800 with ISP connection of 500Mbps already maxed out?



Background information:
I got a 400Mbps ISP connection and now I need to replace my WNR3500L,
because on DD-WRT-FW it only can handle 115Mbps in WAN-LAN throughput.
On stock it gets 520Mbps.



R7800 has such powerful CPU (1.7Ghz Dual Core) which can easyly handle 700Mbps~800Mbps+ WAN-LAN Throughput, even if NAT accelation(SFE or stock firmware's HW NAT) is disabled.

I'm using 500Mbps Down/Up ISP (real throughput is 470Mbps Down/Up)

and

in my case, there is almost no bufferbloat even if I'm Downloading or Uploading in my ISP's Full Speed (470Mbps).

As you can see (the attatchment),
Downloading test in my ISP's full speed (470Mbps),
sirq is under 30%,
which (typically) means, the router still has enough power to handle much more heavy traffic.


But note that, although R7800 has powerful processors, if your cable modem or some other kind of network equipments are causing bufferbloat, bufferbloat can occur.


Anyway, in my case, without QoS, with default NIC settings,
(as I posted in Page 103)

There is (almost) no bufferbloat (still keep normal ping) when downloading/uploading in ISP's Full Speed

and I'm happy with my R7800.
(currently using DD-WRT r33545M)

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Xeon2k8
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:37    Post subject: Re: replace candidate for old thrusty router Reply with quote
DarkBasic86 wrote:
znstyle wrote:
My ISP:
* 500Mbps Down / 500Mbps Up *

R33435M @ R7800


NIC Link Setting: 1.0Gbps Full Duplex
=> Almost no bufferbloat

Hey there,

did I get this right, that you get your full speed with normal ping times, when 1Gbps Full Duplex is set?
Is this the default value, when cable and corresponding NIC comply?

BrainSlayer wrote:
[5] 0.00-1.00 sec 65.9 MBytes 552 Mbits/sec

Is the R7800 with ISP connection of 500Mbps already maxed out?



Background information:
I got a 400Mbps ISP connection and now I need to replace my WNR3500L,
because on DD-WRT-FW it only can handle 115Mbps in WAN-LAN throughput.
On stock it gets 520Mbps.

Read about SFE.

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R6400v2 (boardID:30) - Kong 36480 running since 03/09/18 - (AP - DNSMasq - AdBlocking - QoS)
R7800 - BS 31924 running since 05/26/17 - (AP - OpenVPN Client - DNSMasq - AdBlocking - QoS)
R7000 - BS 30771 running since 12/16/16 - (AP - NAS - FTP - SMB - OpenVPN Server - Transmission - DDNS - DNSMasq - AdBlocking - QoS)
R6250 - BS 29193 running since 03/20/16 - (AP - NAS - FTP - SMB - DNSMasq - AdBlocking)
RandomJerk
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 14:35    Post subject: Bufferbloat Reply with quote
I upgraded to the latest 33525 Kong build and immediately see some bufferbloat related degradation in performance. Anyone else seeing the same issues?
tatsuya46
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 20:58    Post subject: Re: Bufferbloat Reply with quote
RandomJerk wrote:
I upgraded to the latest 33525 Kong build and immediately see some bufferbloat related degradation in performance. Anyone else seeing the same issues?


more issues the better, maybe only then will brainslayer believe me...there is bufferbloat issues on ddwrt period (qos), but this platform has more issues with it than most

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BrainSlayer wrote:
we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150/QCA9984/QCA9882 ------> r55797 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------------------------> r55797 std
▲ ACTIVE / INACTIVE ▼
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------------------------> r50485 std
[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------------------------> r50485 std


Sigh.. why do i exist anyway.. | I love you Anthony.. never forget that.. my other 99% that ill never see again..

vit5421
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 21:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
Whats your latency now? I have less than 25 on Lan and wifi connection and its even graded A on DSL speed test . My ISP speed is up to 250mbs
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tatsuya46
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 23:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
vit5421 wrote:
Whats your latency now? I have less than 25 on Lan and wifi connection and its even graded A on DSL speed test . My ISP speed is up to 250mbs


see http://svn.dd-wrt.com/ticket/5991

the difference between using ethernet and wifi is disgusting.

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BrainSlayer wrote:
we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150/QCA9984/QCA9882 ------> r55797 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------------------------> r55797 std
▲ ACTIVE / INACTIVE ▼
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------------------------> r50485 std
[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------------------------> r50485 std


Sigh.. why do i exist anyway.. | I love you Anthony.. never forget that.. my other 99% that ill never see again..

vit5421
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 0:13    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear tatsuya46,
I checked #5991 ticket and numbers.
I have test it many times and dont have difference between wifi and Lan. The numbers are the same at my location. Sorry

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RandomJerk
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 14:15    Post subject: Reply with quote
vit5421 wrote:
Whats your latency now? I have less than 25 on Lan and wifi connection and its even graded A on DSL speed test . My ISP speed is up to 250mbs


My DSL speed test reports have gone down across all the machines. Latency increased by around 100-125 ms on average.
vit5421
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 14:23    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here is my test result on LAN. Wifi is very similar. Looks good to me
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/23619488

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tatsuya46
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 14:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
vit5421 wrote:
Here is my test result on LAN. Wifi is very similar. Looks good to me
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/23619488


what about with high res bufferbloat option on? but ur upload already isnt good, as to why that could be several things

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BrainSlayer wrote:
we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150/QCA9984/QCA9882 ------> r55797 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------------------------> r55797 std
▲ ACTIVE / INACTIVE ▼
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------------------------> r50485 std
[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------------------------> r50485 std


Sigh.. why do i exist anyway.. | I love you Anthony.. never forget that.. my other 99% that ill never see again..

vit5421
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Posts: 413

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 15:07    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here is my test with high res on. Similar to previous tests and Lan looks good and litle bit better than Wifi according to my understanding
Lan : http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/23621025
Wifi (Intel 7265, win10) : http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/23620854

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vit5421
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 15:13    Post subject: Reply with quote
One more note for wifi side. Starting Kong 33525 build (10/16/17) i have 0 wireless packet errors on both wifi bands compare to 0.1% before
Idk what was improved but looks perfect

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